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7 Fascinating Comments to “Power through on the bubble?”

• Anthony says:

  04.05.2006 at 09:59

  Some things to consider:

  You’re not even getting 2-1 here
  270 antes
  900 blinds
  1800 your bet
  1800 his call
  7618 his raise
  ——
  12388 total/ 7618 to call.

  But I know it’s about the implied odds of what you can do with a stack of 20k.

  If you fold, your M will be about 7 or 8… Not exactly critical… but enough that you can steal and hurt people with a few all in moves.

  I would feel comfortable letting this go and trying to recoup the loss later. I understand your point about “winning it” but just because you’re letting this go doesn’t mean that you can’t win. If you double up within the next level or two, you’ll still be a force. My point is that letting this go doesn’t mean you’ve given up on winning this thing.

  I do understand your reasoning for the call. But I personally would lay this hand down and try to double up later mainly because of your M.

  I’m not saying you’re wrong, just offering a different perspective.
• Anonymous says:

  04.05.2006 at 15:35

  As in all poker – it depends.

  I like the initial raise. The fact that he went all in means his range of hands include AK, AQ, AJ, AT, QQ, JJ, TT and maybe KQ, 99 depending on the player. For the same reasons you listed in the previous hand I wouldn’t put him on AA or KK. You are either slightly ahead or way behind. I would fold here. You still enough “M” left to make a move later and double up.

  Now, if this player was raising or going all in a lot near the bubble and your thought he was just trying to steal the pot by all means I would of called.

  I wonder if you had gone all in instead of just raising what that player would of done with jacks?

  -mjoseph
• SirFWALGMan says:

  04.05.2006 at 16:41

  I tend to think you could have done both. Limp in with the 8′s, try and hit a set, do not call his all in after your limp..
  but I do not think it was wrong to play that way against the big stack..

  For me I would have waited to make my big move until two people went out and I made a few bucks.. I mean you spent hours getting to where you were, whats a few more minutes of waiting.. You still have a 8-9K stack when you make the money and can still scare people when you move all in.. I do not see the downside of waiting out two people..
• Ted says:

  04.05.2006 at 16:53

  I agree with the comments above. for my style of playing I probably would not have even raised with 88′s and have just folded to a large raise but since you did raise I would have folded anyway to the large re-raise. you have to think you are a coinflip at best and why race for all those reasons above. You are probably better than half the field thats left and can make moves later when you are in the money or put your money in a more favorable situation or when you have more fold equity. I do understand your point about having a huge stack and going for the big score but I just think the timing was wrong in this situation.

  PS you need to read a book called “How to Win With 2 Outs or Less”
• Gabe says:

  04.05.2006 at 17:02

  I will add my two cents here Jodi, even though I talked to you briefly last night after my blog monitoring:)

  One thing I dont think you should ever do is open-limp in a pot from the hijack. Not only do you have position on the rest of the field, but there is simply too much fold equity in raising, especially when anteing (is that a word?) has commenced. Actually, I almost never open-limp into a pot in no-limit, period, but if you ever do it, this is not the situation.

  Now after your raise, you have a fairly close decision once the button pushes. There is about 12400 in the pot, and it is just over 7600 for you to call—as you said last night, almost 2-1. It is pretty tough to fold with 8 when you are getting those kind of odds. What kind of read (if any?) did you have on the player?
  Another consideration is your stack—you would be left with about 7600. One round is costing you 1200, so your M is just over 6, which to me anyway, is nearing the critical stage.

  I think if your read on this guy is he would only do this with AK or a high pocket, then you can fold…but absent that information, and if there is any possibility he would make the move with AQ, AJ, KQ or a small pair (which plenty of people do), I make the call every time.
• GoHogs21 says:

  04.05.2006 at 17:25

  I agree with you, I call here with 8s, just b/c i figure it is a race situation and like you, its final table or bust, why play all that long to make pennies? nice blog
• Rico says:

  04.05.2006 at 21:48

  I think this is an easy fold. You were not going to be in critical condition by doing so either, and if I am going down in flames with 8′s, then its because I got my chips in the pot first. I aint going down in flames calling off all my stack.

  My 2 cents